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	<title>Comments for Neither rhyme nor reason</title>
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	<description>The musings of some guy with not enough time to do everything he would like to do.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Testing 1..2..3 by Martin Visser</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2008/11/13/testing-123/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Visser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think the real problem is a webserver coding error. catalog.ebay.com.au still has the same A record as above as I write this (12+ hours from when I first saw this, so I guess no sirens are going off as yet). The actual URL that ebay was providing was http://catalog.ebay.com.au/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX1-Digital-Camera_W0QQ_fclsZ1QQ_pcatidZQQ_pidZ55900538QQ_tabZ2 , which clearly will still break. 

I wasn't really trying to diss ebay (they provide a good service) and I do know people make mistakes (I make a lot). I guess it was more an interesting curio.

I guess there is an opportunity here for people like myself who get involved in network deployments thinking about failure scenarios that aren't just technical.

For instance in this case clearly it doesn't make sense that the record is such as it is. So if you were monitoring your external DNS you could :-

1. Check that all your external facing A records don't have CNAMEs pointing to test servers (alert 1)
2. Check that your external facing A records don't have IP addresses that aren't in your registered external pool (alert 2)

Generally for external DNS I imagine a lot of people just do a fairly simple service test, basically making sure the zone is up and that you get at least 1 result. I doubt that many people actually actually look for giving out wrong results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think the real problem is a webserver coding error. catalog.ebay.com.au still has the same A record as above as I write this (12+ hours from when I first saw this, so I guess no sirens are going off as yet). The actual URL that ebay was providing was <a href="http://catalog.ebay.com.au/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX1-Digital-Camera_W0QQ_fclsZ1QQ_pcatidZQQ_pidZ55900538QQ_tabZ2" rel="nofollow">http://catalog.ebay.com.au/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX1-Digital-Camera_W0QQ_fclsZ1QQ_pcatidZQQ_pidZ55900538QQ_tabZ2</a> , which clearly will still break. </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t really trying to diss ebay (they provide a good service) and I do know people make mistakes (I make a lot). I guess it was more an interesting curio.</p>
<p>I guess there is an opportunity here for people like myself who get involved in network deployments thinking about failure scenarios that aren&#8217;t just technical.</p>
<p>For instance in this case clearly it doesn&#8217;t make sense that the record is such as it is. So if you were monitoring your external DNS you could :-</p>
<p>1. Check that all your external facing A records don&#8217;t have CNAMEs pointing to test servers (alert 1)<br />
2. Check that your external facing A records don&#8217;t have IP addresses that aren&#8217;t in your registered external pool (alert 2)</p>
<p>Generally for external DNS I imagine a lot of people just do a fairly simple service test, basically making sure the zone is up and that you get at least 1 result. I doubt that many people actually actually look for giving out wrong results.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Testing 1..2..3 by Morgan Storey</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2008/11/13/testing-123/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops... but really they are only human, mistakes happen. I have seen this a few times, how quick was it fixed though? My guess is probably pretty quickly after a torrent of emails and calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops&#8230; but really they are only human, mistakes happen. I have seen this a few times, how quick was it fixed though? My guess is probably pretty quickly after a torrent of emails and calls.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toy Wooden Sword Construction from a pro! by Shawn at HeadsUp Construction Scheduling Software</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2007/10/14/toy-wooden-sword-construction-from-a-pro/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn at HeadsUp Construction Scheduling Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you did a heck of a job on those swords.  I'm not that good at carpentry, but my Dad is.  I might have him do something like this for my nephew (who is into combat in a big way, too).  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you did a heck of a job on those swords.  I&#8217;m not that good at carpentry, but my Dad is.  I might have him do something like this for my nephew (who is into combat in a big way, too).  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toy Wooden Sword Construction from a pro! by A wooden sword tutorial &#171; Our Little Nature Nest</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2007/10/14/toy-wooden-sword-construction-from-a-pro/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>A wooden sword tutorial &#171; Our Little Nature Nest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and a tutorial to go along with it. We are just too busy this week to do it. I did find a nice tutorial for a wooden sword over at Neither rhyme nor reason. It is pretty simple, and only requires a jig saw. He also shows [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and a tutorial to go along with it. We are just too busy this week to do it. I did find a nice tutorial for a wooden sword over at Neither rhyme nor reason. It is pretty simple, and only requires a jig saw. He also shows [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on http://proxy.olympics.org:8080 - why not IOC? by Morgan Storey</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2008/08/01/httpproxyolympicsorg8080-why-not-ioc/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Martin, but there are so many other ways to do it and China doesn't want to blatantly let everyone know there are many ways round the firewall. I have personally advised a Journo friend how to use Tor while he is over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Martin, but there are so many other ways to do it and China doesn&#8217;t want to blatantly let everyone know there are many ways round the firewall. I have personally advised a Journo friend how to use Tor while he is over there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toy Wooden Sword Construction from a pro! by Nikki</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2007/10/14/toy-wooden-sword-construction-from-a-pro/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great! I think I will have to try this out for my son. Thanks for the inspiration and instructions.
Cheers Nikki
South Australia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great! I think I will have to try this out for my son. Thanks for the inspiration and instructions.<br />
Cheers Nikki<br />
South Australia</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to get from A to B the long way by Marty</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2008/04/01/how-to-get-from-a-to-b-the-long-way/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seemed to have found the corrcet reporting page for GM Oz - http://maps.google.com.au/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=bug&#38;submit=Continue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seemed to have found the corrcet reporting page for GM Oz - <a href="http://maps.google.com.au/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=bug&amp;submit=Continue" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com.au/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=bug&amp;submit=Continue</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on How to get from A to B the long way by Nick J</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2008/04/01/how-to-get-from-a-to-b-the-long-way/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giving Google constructive corrections on their maps site is very painful. The best/only place I have found is http://maps.google.com/support/bin/request.py (which has been updated since I used it last). However, I have never got a single human response to any of my map corrections, so after a number of attempts I stopped bothering, since it seemed to me that they were not really interested in feedback. Hope you have better luck! 
-- All the best,
Nick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving Google constructive corrections on their maps site is very painful. The best/only place I have found is <a href="http://maps.google.com/support/bin/request.py" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/support/bin/request.py</a> (which has been updated since I used it last). However, I have never got a single human response to any of my map corrections, so after a number of attempts I stopped bothering, since it seemed to me that they were not really interested in feedback. Hope you have better luck!<br />
&#8211; All the best,<br />
Nick.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to get from A to B the long way by How to get from A to B the &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to get from A to B the &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2008/04/01/how-to-get-from-a-to-b-the-long-way/ asks Hoosgot, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2008/04/01/how-to-get-from-a-to-b-the-long-way/" rel="nofollow">http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2008/04/01/how-to-get-from-a-to-b-the-long-way/</a> asks Hoosgot, [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Replacing an instrument panel bulb by Sam O</title>
		<link>http://marty.sunriseroad.net/2007/11/22/replacing-an-instrument-panel-bulb/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the photo diary very helpful. Sure this is what has happended to the odometer on my Zafira. Will get the part and have a go and taking the dash apart (with your very helpful pictures this weekend.) And hopefully put it back again.) Pic 28 shows the mess you need to make and pic 29 made me laugh!

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the photo diary very helpful. Sure this is what has happended to the odometer on my Zafira. Will get the part and have a go and taking the dash apart (with your very helpful pictures this weekend.) And hopefully put it back again.) Pic 28 shows the mess you need to make and pic 29 made me laugh!</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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